Club 30's "Kill the Boredom Demon" Jive Pad, 31st Edition

sbst275 SG

They alrdy made sure those with better results goes with the better ones, those poorer in results goes with the poorer ones at primary level

That's why there's always the fight i.e. JC vs Poly crap

the Bear SG

and how do you choose the "elite" ?

sadly, when i mentioned the true goal of education, which is to shape minds, teach people how to think critically, and to inspire the students to want to learn, i got a lot of blank stares..

they figure education is a means to an end.. that end being "good results"

the results are all-important.. what is learnt along the way isn't...

i guess it is a very machiavellian world we live in...

a cold and cynical world where the end justifies any means, even if it means throwing away your own humanity

the Bear SG

okay.. i've seen first hand myself..

the "elite" schools in singapore, you don't need teachers...

seriously..

the students are all tutored to hell at home or have already studied everything before the bloody lesson starts...

av98m SG

Its quite frightening then how practically all the menial, low paying work in Singapore is done by the elderly? Except for the construction industry.

sbst275 SG

Actually they said now be it the best poly or JC grad can get to uni

Actually it's all crap... For poly grad, they still wanna see their O Lvl results for entry score

It seems like though you did well in poly, but because of your poor O Lvl result, I'm sorry to say that you are at a disadvantage

sbst275 SG

But I suppose they lack in being able to get in touch with what's happening on the ground

the Bear SG

ahhh.. but the powers don't see it... at all...

those doing the menial work don't turn up at all when they use their "helicopter vision"

i once told off a senior management fella who was sprouting lyrical about another's "helicopter vision"

i said that being so high, everyone looks like ants.. and even if they look like ants, they aren't, they're real people.. however people with "helicopter vision" can't see that the ants are slogging away.. and usually get stepped on..

he wasn't happy with me Laughing

av98m SG

I think, the MIW would love to use the same system described to produce the elite and other classes in Brave New World if they thought they could get away with it.

although the education system is already eerily similar Laughing

av98m SG

and thse are your future political leaders Laughing

sbst275 SG

Actually I heard that day some ppl got irked by the way the uni degree courses are offered

The word 'elite' is oftenly being mentioned

the Bear SG

no.. where "success at any costs" is the mantra, they will work hard...

group all of these students together, they all compete this way because in a cohort where 98% means you fall into the lower half, they will do whatever to get ahead.. including study way before the lessons are taught...

and their parents will help too...

the teachers in the schools are immaterial....

however, when you group people together like this, Groupthink happens...

and oi! av... going to the camera place or not?

sbst275 SG

I think we have some alrdy

the Bear SG

lau lee's son... first president scholar.. in an education system and school built for him..

what do you think?? Laughing

sbst275 SG

Pioneers at NJC if I'm not wrong

av98m SG

I just called the guy, he's in. shall we go? Wink

the Bear SG

what time? i'll go get changed and can go Razz

sbst275 SG

Maybe I’ll go to IKEA aft this

av98m SG

1:30? I meet you ouside my gate (where the mailbox is)

the Bear SG

okay

in 10 minutes Wink

av98m SG

seeya

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